Jeremy Boreing, the Daily Wire co-founder and former CEO, said he first realized Tucker Carlson was “the most dangerous man in American politics” during a 2018 exchange about banning self-driving vehicles and whether the case was rooted in safety or authority.
Jeremy Boreing remembers the conversation as clearly as the words that came after it.
On Wednesday. Boreing. the co-founder and former CEO of the Daily Wire. used a podcast discussion to describe the exact moment he decided Tucker Carlson was the “most dangerous man in American politics.” He said the turn began in 2018. when Carlson argued that self-driving trucks should be banned to save jobs.
The exchange was sparked by New York Post columnist Karol Markowicz. who pointed to the first time she said she ever saw Carlson and Ben Shapiro disagree. Markowicz described what she saw as a fundamental mismatch: Shapiro asked Carlson. “Would you ban self-driving trucks in order to save the jobs?” and Carlson replied. “Of course I would.”.
That’s what Boreing said hit him—because, as he told it, the discussion quickly expanded into questions about the basis for outlawing self-driving technology.
Boreing said the same topic resurfaced first in his office and then later on television. He recalled that the follow-up question in the broader conversation was, “On what basis would you ban self-driving cars?. The president doesn’t have that kind of authority.” In Boreing’s retelling, Carlson answered with a single word: “Safety.”.
Boreing pushed back in the way he described as almost instinctive. He said he believed the premise didn’t hold. arguing that if autonomous driving ever becomes reality. it would be safer than human driving. But he said Carlson returned to a different framing: Boreing described Carlson as saying. “Well. you didn’t ask me what’s true. You asked me on what basis I would justify outlawing self-driving cars.”.
In Boreing’s account, that moment carried a bigger meaning than a debate over one technology.
“From that moment. from 2018 forward. ” Boreing said. “Ben and I often said to one another that Tucker was the most dangerous man in American politics.” He didn’t claim Carlson was uniquely prone to dishonesty for the sake of power—Boreing said anyone could lie for power under certain circumstances. The point, he said, was different.
Boreing argued that what unsettled him wasn’t simply that Carlson might be willing to misstate things—it was the lack of guilt. He described Carlson’s stance as shifting the conversation away from admitting weakness toward justifying it.
He tied that idea to Carlson’s approach as he contrasted “fall short of the glory of God,” which Boreing said is a core Christian concept. Boreing said the way he sees Carlson framing human imperfection—by treating it as an acceptable rationale rather than a confession—doesn’t land the same way.
In Boreing’s telling, Carlson wasn’t admitting fault or human frailty. Instead. Boreing said Carlson was operating as if the plan is to normalize wrongdoing: “I would lie for power.” Boreing said that is “much different” from acknowledging temptation in oneself—because. he argued. a person could say “I might lie for power. ” but that’s not presented as a blueprint.
Boreing ended his remarks by describing the moral structure he believes Carlson has leaned into: “There’s no guilt. There’s justifying. The ends justify the means.”
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Sounds like Tucker was just doing politics like always.
Daily Wire co-founder talking like he discovered a villain in 2018… ok but self-driving cars should’ve been banned for other reasons anyway. Safety is always the argument, it’s not like anyone has answers.